Corbyn's obviously thought that it's now-or-never and has gone all in - whilst Johnson tinkers around the edges and fills pot holes. It's brave. Perhaps too brave and people have trust issues. I'm sure many are dismissive.
if any party said their number one priority was actually filling in pot holes, they would win the election by a (sinkhole) landslide.
i think we've got so used to austerity and things always getting worse, rather than the expectation or indeed hope of things improving, that just about any pledges made just seem like dust on the wind.
not one of the leaders of the political parties comes accross as anything other than a total shyster, offering pledge-bingo; plant a billion trees! create a million new nurses!
Ah well yes, I guess the sad truth is potholes are now such a serious issue that it has become a legit election pledge! It just reminded me of Major's 'cones hotline'
The election pledges this time around do have a ring of 'who has got the biggest bag of sweeties' Still, if it truely has gotten to that level then you might just as well go for your confectionery of choice. Like a lottery, you MIGHT pick a winner.
I'll be sticking my vote in the post this week. I've gone for the lot promising salted caramel toffees.
I rather suspect that after you unwrap your 'package' you may be faced with a smelly, unpalatable sticky mess...... however that may still be better than the alternative choices! May I suggest you keep a large garbage can to hand when it comes time to unwrap the offerings!!
Post by thesentientpasty on Dec 8, 2019 21:08:06 GMT
I am an optimist.
Always personally politically active, this election, after 56 years, I've taken it to stage #2.
I have worn the fabled SNP hi-vis.
I have been canvassing.
I have been leafletting.
I have been selling up my MP's capabilities over the last few years to undecided punters on their doorsteps.
And, on election night, I shall be involved with the acquisition of the closing poll in a constituency near Glasgow. (It's a great gig, btw, eight hours' easy work at a polling station and £120 in my pocket, thank you. Home for eleven, then a night of drinking wine and shouting at the TV.)
Change may well come from within, but accelerating that change by getting off my arse seems eminently worthwhile.
(This has been a party political rant on behalf of the Bez party)
May there be Portillo moments aplenty this election. I am laying in some booze in readiness.
In my ignorance of Brit politics having left those fair isles some 50 years ago I had not heard of a Portillo moment so went looking so for the benefit of readers who may not have heard the phrase here is the definition....
"Portillo moment" has become a metaphor for an indication of a sudden and significant change in political fortunes - particularly when a leading MP (especially a Cabinet Minister) has been unseated at a general election.
Originally referred to the 1997 United Kingdom general election in which Michael Portillo, a prominent Conservative representing what was thought to be a safe seat, unexpectedly lost to the Labour candidate.
Ahh.... as LD says there may well be a few of those in your future over there.....!!
My supply has just been updated so that I may commiserate (update, or celebrate) with you....
No party is perfect, as no politician is perfect, but the way I look at it this election is a chance to try and bring about some real change to our broken society. It won't be easy, the UK is a conservative (with a little c) country and most of us don't like change - it's challenging and hard and if we're honest, most of us like a bit of routine. But what we have now isn't working. I'm not overly optimistic about the result on Friday but secretly hoping for a miracle. I'll cast my vote. What happens next is anyones guess.
Oh well. A roll of the dice that lost, both my vote and an ambitious Labour manifesto.
I am not sure where this will all lead for the good people of the UK but I do obviously hope it all works out in the end. I do feel it's going to be a bumpy ride however, and one to a destination that, tbh and at best, will perhaps not be that different for most - except for maybe the brands of cookies (and they will be no biscuits, just cookies) on sale in the local supermarket.
Personally, I'm saddened. Sad that the people of England (and it is largely England) have decided to take this path. I think it's a mistake.
Personally, I'm saddened. Sad that the people of England (and it is largely England) have decided to take this path. I think it's a mistake.
I cannot help but agree but would add that I am deeply concerned for the future for all of you over there. Anyone who thinks that this will end well any time in the near future is dreaming in technicolour, I predict years of mayhem both political and economic, for Brexshit may be 'done' according to Bojo but the ramifications will go on for years.
Post by thesentientpasty on Dec 15, 2019 0:27:21 GMT
I was at my MP's 'thank you for getting me re-elected' gig tonight. About thirty of us, who've canvassed and cajoled and trod the oh-so-wet-and-dark-streets for the electorate over the last three weeks or so.
And it was a good evening. Smiles, chat and laughs.
...But then we have the potential 'Get Out Of The UK' Card to keep us going.
Well the U.K will never be the same ever again. Stupidity played a part. "I voted Tory because of the state the country is in" said one....FFS! And Racisim which after years of thankfully becoming a thing of the past has burst forth once again...no doubt because our own P.M uses phrases like picaninnies and describing some Muslim women as letter boxes. Oh well it must be O.K the use the "N" word and be thoughorly nasty then Boris does it and he is our leader...…. The whole thing sickens me. I shall still be going on protests and being active to try to bring some niceness back to the country. A country which really is not mine now.
Just picking up on something Lazy said up there ^^ I don't actually think racism went away, I think it was just hidden but since all this Brexit shite came up, now those people think it's ok to be open with it. We all want brexit so we all hate foreigners, right?
It's sad that we have stooped to these depths and as much as I feel disheartened and upset and just generally sad about the state of the UK, I will not just give up and let them have their way. Now is the time for us to stand up for what we believe is right, to be kind to one another, to think of and help those less fortunate than ourselves, but most of all to not give this government one minutes peace - give those fuckers hell. Protest, complain, send them petitions they probably won't read but never make life easy for them.
Ok, I went a bit "we will fight them on the beaches" then....i need a biscuit and a cup of tea....
I admire the spirit bear, and applaud the enthusiasm - really I do.
Me, I've grown tired. I think I'm ready to roll over and die in truth. I'm not optimistic about modern life at all (primarily climate and economics, in that order) and I see no political will to change any of it. I feel we can protest as much as we like but I do feel it all just falls on deaf ears. I'm done.
I'm really sorry to be so negative. I hope it's just a culmination and I pick up again soon.
Britain still believes it`s self to be some sort of special case ….again. Mainland Europe locks down to help control Corona virus. Us? Swarm to Snowdon ...unprecedented numbers of visitors. Pack the parks with hardly a blade of grass to separate them. Form a tight scrum waiting for the supermarket doors to open. Still NOT testing passengers flying into our airports. So laughing boy. Wouldn`t it be a jolly jape to be P.M Johnson "Threatens" us with continental style lockdowns. Threaten is no good. Fucking DO IT and save some lives. Oh hang on ….the Tories did say that some were expendable.....
I fear the Tories want the UK to morph into some kind of USA. One of the things that coronavirus is showing us is that a country/society dependent on capitalist endeavour is simply not equipped to handle such a crisis. It's all too unbalanced and fragile.
Robin Williams had a joke about British police not having guns. In the US, a policeman might shout 'stop or I'll shoot', whereas a British bobby has to shout 'stop, or I'll shout stop again' Boris's announcement reminded me of that joke; stop going to social gatherings or I'll ask you again to stop.
Well we would rather our police not armed but a surprising number are although you may not know it. The Tories want us to become Singapore on Thames. A low regulation low rights economy where the state does not provide for the population but expects then to do that for themselves. So providing them with low paid workers who will work until they drop.....because they have too. If one good thing can come from this bad situation we are in I hope it will be that the population begin to realise that we need to be nicer and think of others much more even if that means we become a socialist country. Look to the Scandi countries it `aint that bad!
Post by InspectorLorac on Mar 23, 2020 22:42:36 GMT
So Boris has finally stopped flimflamming around, got his arse sort of in gear and locked the country down. Let's hope people actually pay attention and do the right thing. Mrs Inspector Lorac and I were saying only yesterday,how come Johnson hasn't had the gumption to make a proper speech to the nation and lock the country down and finally, today he has.
Well I say proper, the man has no gravitas and just comes across as a schoolboy playing the part of Prime Minister in a play he's written for O level Drama badly, directed by his drama teacher Mr Cummings. He comes across like the Robin Williams British Plods observation you referred to Edgar.
Stay at home or else I'll tell you to say at home again.
I really do hope people lock down and stay at home though. A lot of people will but I can imagine a sizable number of people either just ignoring it and wandering about all over the place regardless, or they're not even engaged with the whole situation and utterly clueless about social distancing. And there will be others who are going to be out on the streets taking advantage.
On top of that, unless people comply peacefully on mass it'd going to be almost impossible to enforce, there just won't be enough police to do it..... and that would mean bringing the army in and of course whoever you bring in they too are going to be dealing with their numbers being brought down by the virus.
It could go either way, people complying with the lock down for the sake of everyone or... the other way and that really doesn't bear thinking about.
Even the first way is going to be grim.
I suppose it's not easy to perceive what being seriously ill is like if you've never been seriously ill. maybe that's why a lot of people aren't grasping the seriousness of this. Personally I'm thoroughly scared shitless. Something like this has been on the cards for a long time. I've been reading epidemiologists " it's not if, it's when" warnings for years along with the world's lack of preparedness and joined up response,and it'll never happen attitude and now here it is. It didn't have to be like this.
Keep to yourselves over there, stay home if you can, be safe and stay well.
I think the UK will struggle with lockdown, at least initially. We've already seen Sports Direct try to take the situation into their own hands (they've quickly backed down after criticism) and there will be those (businesses and individuals) trying to do similar.
I fear that even as I type there are lawyers gearing up to find clauses in contracts that enable clients to sue for loss of earnings etc. I really want for us all to accept that we're in this together but I fear I'm being naive.
No doubt the law will be involved at some point Edgar. Heard tell of Worzel Wetherspoon the pub magnate wishing to sue government......crazy Sadly there are many older people still out and about claiming it does not scare them flippantly chucking in that old Chesnut. We survived two world wars so what can this do to us.... Bloody idiots cant see that it is for the sake of all.
We here 'across the pond' are now also on lockdown at least here in Ontario with all but 'essential services' shut down as of this evening, the list of services permitted to be still in operation is however very long and fortunately includes our liquor stores so we can continue to sterilize our throats. I suspect there will be much of that happening over the next few weeks for there is little else going on to 'lift your spirits'!
I'm currently in Portland, Oregon US in lock-down. I've only worked 3 days last week and took this week off. I've been staying in during my off days except for the one time I had to go to the pharmacy, which was a nerve-wracking experience! Fortunately, my job at the pizza joint is still open and operating and I haven't been let go. Everything is shut except essential services, which restaurants are considered. Most restaurants have remained opened but are only allowed by law to offer take away and delivery. Despite the "say in place" declaration, a sizable number of people are curtailing our quarantine efforts with their selfishness.
My main concern is the countless people unable to work to earn money. The governor implemented a 6-month eviction moratorium, but many landlords are still sending tenants notices about requiring them to pay rent. US Congress are working on a stimulus package to provide workers and businesses money, but it's currently in gridlock as they constantly modify the bill and vote against it. The longer they delay passing economic aid, the more people will be unable to pay for necessities, the more businesses will go under, and the more people will face starvation and homelessness.
On the upside, this global pandemic has caused everyone to take a long deep pause and slow down. We now appreciate basic things we took for granted, like store shelves being consistently well-stocked. Toilet paper, disinfectants, and basic food items are in limited supply with unpredictable availability. I myself have become less wasteful and more frugal a couple weeks before the pandemic hit critical levels locally, and I now feel a bit more mentally prepared for these uncertain times. Although I've decided to quit drinking alcohol for good, I have been tempted to drink hard liquor to calm my nerves and disinfectant my throat!
How are you folks currently faring during this global pandemic? Please be safe and well! I am glad to reconnect with you all after all these years!
My main concern is the countless people unable to work to earn money. The governor implemented a 6-month eviction moratorium, but many landlords are still sending tenants notices about requiring them to pay rent.
I hear you. I've remarked on it in another thread; I really want that we all place nice, all realise we're all in the same boat... but sadly there are are-soles on this planet that think only of themselves.
I know what Trump is saying when he says 'the cure can't be worse than the disease' (it sounds like one of the motivational cliches tbh!) but the 'disease' is made many times worse by people acting out of selfishness. The cure isn't so bad if we all take it.
Post by InspectorLorac on Mar 25, 2020 21:13:00 GMT
Edgar wrote -I live in the middle of nowhere so I don't really see much difference - no one ever comes here anyway!
I don't quite live in the middle of nowhere Edgar,but in a place that's perhaps a cross between a large village and a tiny town surrounded by farmland. Not quite sure what defines the difference but the one thing I've noticed since the 'lock down' here ( our Taoiseach rather sensibly isn't calling it that mind, based on the fact that it just means too many things to different people) is that the place is in some ways busier during the day than it would normally be because people who would normally be away at work during the day are all at home and so are wandering about more albeit for the most part in a socially distancing sort of a way. I'm having to go for a walk in the local woods far earlier than I would normally just to avoid the crowds.... well I say crowds, half a dozen or so is a crowd when you only expect to see one or two or mostly no one.
the place is in some ways busier during the day than it would normally be because people who would normally be away at work during the day are all at home
My wife and I decided yesterday that it was probably a little quieter around here than normal. It's usually quiet so it's difficult to tell. How can something be quieter than quiet? I suppose it has an eerie Sunday feel to it, or something.
I read yesterday that postie now only delivers 4 days a week, not that I'd noticed. Next week it'll be 3. I see them go past sometimes around 10:30am-ish but otherwise I'm unaware. I loose track of what day it is in truth. We don't get much post these days - I don't suppose many people do what with t'internet and everything.
Change of subject: daisy mentioned him above, Mr Weatherspoon. What a horrid piece of work he is eh? Hero of 'the people' (vocal Brexit backer) now showing more of his character. This government does, I feel, encourage people with such traits. What have we become?